关于geforce+gtx+650
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自从上次AMD在桌面平台发布集成显卡的CPU（APU），已经过去了近3年......
以前被叫做“APU”、“Accelerated Processing Unit”、“加速处理器”的产品其实就是集成显卡更强的CPU，用于和普通的CPU相区分，毕竟这年头CPU里面一般都带个亮机用的集显，不过后来AMD弃用了这个叫法，“APU”这个称谓也渐渐淡出了视线，但是随着新一代锐龙8000G的发布，我觉得“APU”的称号可以重出江湖了——不过这次是新的意思：“AI Processing Unit”！
产品规格
这次发布的8000G系列锐龙一共有四款，实际开卖的是头两款，分别是锐龙7 8700G和锐龙5 8600G，一言以蔽之，其实就说大约一年前发布的移动平台代号Phoenix的锐龙R7 7840H/HS和R5 7640H/HS的桌面版本，所不同的是默认功耗提升到了65W，集成显卡的频率也大幅度提升，但是CPU核心频率和移动端差别不大。很显然，AMD意在进一步扩大集成显卡的性能优势，达成“集显干掉独显”成就！
另外，8700G和8600G也是首个内置AI单元的桌面平台CPU，AI有多火就不用说了吧，虽然目前的AI应用主要还是从显卡上跑，但是CPU内置的XDNA AI单元后续肯定可以发挥更大的作用——更不用说8000G系列的集成显卡本来就非常强！
测试平台
由于定位中端，因此这次的测试平台没有用太夸张的，不过为了测试高频内存对集成显卡的性能影响，用了一套比较高端的内存，另外加入了上代APU 5700G和i5 13490F+GTX1650/GTX1050TI/Arc A380作为对照组，具体配置如下：
CPU：AMD Ryzen 7 8700G
AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
Intel Core i5 13490F
散热器：九州风神AK500S
主板：华硕ROG Strix B650-A GAMING WIFI 吹雪
华硕TUF GAMING B550M PLUS WIFI重炮手
华硕TUF GAMING B760M PLUS WIFI重炮手
内存：金士顿Fury Renegade D5 7200 24G 2
金士顿Fury D4 3600 16G 2
显卡：NVIDIA GeForce GTX1650 D6 4G
NVIDIA GeForce GTX1050TI 4G
Intel Arc A380 6G
SSD：金士顿KC3000 1TB
显示器：华硕ROG XG27UQ
电源：华硕ROG Thor II 1200
系统：Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Insider
这次8700G系列的包装沿袭了锐龙AM5系列的一贯风格，但是又和其他有所区别：普通版锐龙没有特别的标识，X3D版本增加了一个银色的“3D V-Cache技术”的三角标识，而到了8000G系列，则是亮眼的橙色“AMD Ryzen AI”标识，表示这是内置Ryzen Ai单元的全新8000系列处理器。
内部主要是CPU、文档和散热器。
CPU外观上和之前的版本稍微有点不一样，虽然还是“八爪鱼”造型，但是把顶盖外露的电容电阻之类的元器件都移到了顶盖里面，这下不怕硅脂外溢了！
贴纸也换成了新的Ryzen 8000系列贴纸，但是这次没有给显卡贴纸。
相比上代APU R7 5700G，那已经是三年前的产品啦！
和5700G不同，这次8700G给的是中档的幽灵Wraith Spire散热器，也就是那个没灯、厚一点、纯铝的散热，质量还不错，散热性能比5700G给的Wraith Stealth好一些，但是不如7900智酷版里面带RGB的幽灵RGB，不过对于标称TDP只有65W的8700G来说完全够用了，如果不超频，基本不需要单独买散热器，无形又省了一笔。
搭配测试的主板是华硕ROG Strix B650-A GAMING WIFI吹雪主板，也是老选手了，B650大板中高端主力产品，更新了最新的BIOS后可顺利支持8000G系列APU。
既然是白色吹雪主板，那散热器也整个白色，对于默认只有区区65W TDP的8700G来说搞个水冷有点浪费了，不用原装散热器的话就来个单塔散热吧，毕竟后面还得测试解锁功耗的性能，这里我用的是九州风神的冰立方AK500S，白色ARGB神光同步，单风扇5热管，连顶盖和散热鳍片都是白色，完美搭配B650A吹雪主板。
虽然8700G标称的内存支持为JEDEC DDR5 5600，根据以往AM5 CPU的使用经验来看6000-6400这样的频率即可发挥最大性能，不过从5700G的经验来看由于APU都是集成IOD，FCLK超频能力要比分离IOD的CPU高一点。另外最近锐龙的BIOS更新了新的AEGSA，内存超频能力暴涨，锁定FCLK频率的情况下轻松上8000！对于集成显卡的APU来说高频内存应该有不小的助力，因此这里使用了金士顿Fury Renegade 7200 24GB2的高端内存套装，分别测试6400和8000两组内存频率，看一下8700G在不同内存频率下的性能。
默认性能测试
CPU性能
首先是CPU部分，简而言之，单核性能和移动/迷你主机平台上的7840HS，解锁到65W，一模一样！当然由于桌面平台内存频率起码6000起步，实际性能比移动平台的7840HS 65W还要强一些，更不用说就算是迷你主机，也少有能长时间稳65W的，因此多核性能要略强一点。
集成显卡理论性能
而集成显卡性能，就不太一样了：一方面是功耗上限更高，另一方面8700G里面的Radeon 780M显卡频率高达2.9GHz，比移动端的7840HS集成的Radeon 780M 2.7GHz频率高了近一成，几乎要成为史上频率最高的显卡之一了！另外桌面平台更高的功耗限制也进一步释放了显卡性能，最重要的是，桌面平台有极高的内存规格，可以为带宽吃紧的集成显卡提供更充裕的显存带宽！（虽然依然吃紧，毕竟同核心规模的RX6400显存带宽有128GB/s了）
在DDR5 6400的状态下，8700G的集成显卡性能已经优于7840HS+LPDDR5 6400MHz的性能了，差不多可以当成一个降频版的RX6400来看待了！
集成显卡游戏性能
甚至于在1080P分辨率下，已经基本可以流畅玩目前绝大部分3A游戏了——而且是高画质！即使是最基础的6400内存频率下，8700G内置的高规格集成显卡，在1080P高画质下，全部超过了30fps的最低可玩标准，稍微降低一下画质，或者优化好一点的游戏，就可以畅玩了，
温度和功耗
那么这个状态下的温度功耗表现如何呢？简而言之，非常好！毕竟满载只有区区65W，那真是随便拿个散热器都能搞定的水平，满载整个平台输入也不过100W左右，其中APU会先跑到87W左右，然后大约1分钟后降到65W并持续，这个时间和功耗都可以调整。
内存超频及对比测试
实话说默认性能没有太大惊喜，迷你主机上拉个65W的7840HS也差不多，那么桌面平台最大优势是什么？能超频啊！内存先来个8000！
然后功耗解锁！直接跑到111W，整机输入165W，比默认状态增加了一半左右，温度也上升到84度，好在噪音基本没增加，全核心可以跑到4.7GHz了，差不多是R7 7700X的水平了，相当强悍！
那么这个8000内存频率状态下集成显卡性能如何呢？直接拉上几张独显来对比！这里拉上Intel中端出货量最大的i5 13490F，分别搭配GTX1050Ti 4G、GTX1650 D6 4G、Arc A380三张千元级独显来对比，以及上一代APU 5700G的Vega8、14代Core i9里面内置的UHD770作为参照：
可以看出，即使是默认状态65W+6400内存的8700G，其集成显卡性能也已经完全碾压了GTX1050Ti，而在解锁功耗+8000内存频率的双重BUFF下，性能直追GTX1650 D6高频版本以及Arc A380，差不多有RX6400水平了！或者换句话说，超过了GTX960水平，接近GTX970了！低端独显，可以彻底淘汰了！
One More Thing......
除此之外，基于RDNA3架构的Radeon 780M还支持目前最新的各种特性，例如可以AI跑图：
6400显存频率下，使用未优化过的DirectML引擎生成一张512512 20次迭代的图时间大约为40秒-1分钟左右，如果换成优化过的Onnx模型，则大约只需要10秒左右！而换成Linux下的ROCm，则可以压缩到10秒以内，更妙的是如果本地有32G或者更多内存，可以直接划16G内存来当做超大显存！没想到吧，最便宜的大显存AI显卡是8700G！
除此之外，在新的24.1.1驱动中，AMD还为所有RDNA2、3架构的显卡开启了AFMF AI插帧支持！在所有3D游戏、视频播放中，都可以利用AFMF获得80-100%的fps提升！集成的Radeon 780M一样可以获得巨大提升，这不得不说苏妈就是大气！
例如在2077中画质测试中，不开启AFMF时为59-61 fps的场景，开启了AFMF后立刻暴涨到99fps！其原理是利用AI算力将原始帧插帧计算，达到fps翻倍的效果，由于这个计算是在渲染完成后实现的，因此游戏内置的测试是看不到结果的，只有驱动监控以及肉眼能看到大约80-100%的帧数提升！
在帧率越低的时候，AFMF效果就越明显，例如古墓11这个场景中可以把原来38-39的帧率翻倍提升到69左右！但是这个状态下会引入一点额外延迟，高FPS下提升小但延迟也小，所以在激烈的网游、FPS游戏中能感觉到不太建议开，单机3A游戏的话配合HYPR-RX里面的Antlag+技术，可以做到几乎无感——如今集显都可以爽玩3A了！！！
总结
1.这是AM5平台上的首个集成“大显卡”的“APU”，虽然本世代AM5 CPU在IO Die中已经集成了显示核心，不过相比之下，APU里的Radeon 780M“大显卡”则用强大的性能实实在在地宣布了低端独显的时代已经正式过去，甚至还支持光追和AI，性能强劲，功能全面，时候拔掉独显以提升性能了！
2.除此之外，8000G系列APU也是首个内置AI单元“NPU”的处理器产品正式上桌面平台。这两年AI的火热自不必说，也是下一个PC市场的增长点。作为首个内置AI单元的处理器，预计以后很多AI相关的桌面应用，都要围绕NPU来开发，意义重大。
3.从以往的经验来看，APU在发布之初价格都偏高，这次又赶上过年，8700G的国行正式价格虽还没出来，但肯定低不了，所以不着急尝新的朋友们不用着急，搭载7840HS的迷你主机已经卷到了2000出头就能买个准系统，加个内存硬盘也就3000不到，相信CPU几乎相同的8700G后续价格也不会太高，8600G的性能也值得期待。等8000G系列APU价格降到合适的价位之时，就是宣判低端独显彻底淘汰之日！
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篇六十一：彻底终结低端独显？！AMD Ryzen 7 8700G CPU测试，首个内置AI单元的桌面CPU（APU）！@毕姚泡14724584268# Nvidia+GeForce+GTX+660是独显?
#席卖刚1763： 是独立显卡,1款不错的,中端显卡,性价比不错
@毕姚泡14724584268# 我是电脑小白,那个显卡是怎么看的??Geforce+数字和GT+数字,什么的,到底哪个好那个差啊?? -
#席卖刚1763： nvidia 由GT GTS GTX开头.后面跟3位数.GT是入门级,GTS是大众级 ,GTX是顶级. 一般能冠上GTX的都是高级货.后面3个数就很简单了,主要看冠名,和第二位数.比如GTX260 就是G200 系列 的 等级6 显卡虽然他是G200的. 但性能比GTX460以下的都好,比如GTS450.440 420.也比560以下的性能好.比如GTX550. 而9800GTX之类是,用G92构架的东西,GTX是放在后面的.从G200系列开始,GTX是放在前面.还有些le tc的,和板载显卡性能一样差,不要考虑购买
@毕姚泡14724584268# Nvidia+GeForce+GTX+760支持两个显示器吗
#席卖刚1763： 可以支持的,但是不推荐,因为这显卡的显存只有2G,像GTX680、GTX780等旗舰级以上的显卡,显存都是很大的,顶级的GTX690有4G,GTXTitan有6G.如果有2个DVI接口就可以760肯定支持双屏卡巴标配应该可以支持2屏这个是可以的呀!
@毕姚泡14724584268# Nvidia+GeForce+GTX+260+和205那个好??
#席卖刚1763： 260比205好
@毕姚泡14724584268# Nvidia+GeForce+GTX+660冰龙在鲁大师怎么显示 -
#席卖刚1763： Nvidia GeForce GTX 660(2GB/Nvidia) 右边会有冰龙的图标
@毕姚泡14724584268# geforce+gtx+750+怎样设置
#席卖刚1763： 右键选择n卡设置将需要的程序设定为n卡运行
@毕姚泡14724584268# nvidia+geforce+gtx+770台式可以用?
#席卖刚1763： 哟,不错呀,这个显卡高端,所有游戏支持.
@毕姚泡14724584268# Nvidia+GeForce+GTX+650+好?
#席卖刚1763： 还不错啦,相对现价
@毕姚泡14724584268# GeForce 9800GTX+
#席卖刚1763： 65NM的应该是9800GTX 待机温度和你的环境温度 机箱散热有关系 一般情况下 50度左右都属正常
@毕姚泡14724584268# Nvidia+GeForce+GTX+650+Ti+好还是蓝宝石+蓝宝石HD7770黑钻OC版好?
#席卖刚1763： N 卡是高端显卡好 A的是低端显卡好
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